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About Game of Thrones by Lipatov About Game of Thrones by Lipatov
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The top image is medieval finery. They did not wear that everyday and certainly not the peasants. It was very expensive to dye cloth, so most clothes were actually in that range of colours.
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Sokil-Su May 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly the opposite. The dyes were cheap and common, even peasants dyed their humble clothes in bright colors, though it did not improve the quality of the cloth.
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I don't think I have the wrong impression but would appreciate if you could direct me to resource that says so. Still top image is a banquet, with distinguished guests.
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Sokil-Su May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also in this very topic there is already a discussion a little above.
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If discussion is in Cyrillic, sorry I can't read that. And I don't trust Google to translate properly, it usually misses something. ;)
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Sokil-Su May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nope, the other one, without my posts =D
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Sokil-Su May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just take a look at the traditional national costumes of Europe.
People wore simple clothes daily, but could afford some bright stuff for going out.
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Sokil-Su May 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's so funny to read people advocating HBO. This just sooo clearly shows you guys haven't read the book.
Martin does give plenty of thorough descriptions of characters' looks, armors, clothes, scenery, and HBO just ignores all of that just like shown on this picture here. By the book most of the stuff looks pretty much close to late 15th century, in the series it is about 10th century at its best.
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They had good reason to disregard it though. The historically correct clothing would probably just look garish on screen. Not to mention that it would clash with the dour and grim tone of the show.
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Sokil-Su Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe, but I think it would not) There's no need to bring in historical clothes, you just can take it from the book and make appropriate for the screen, but the main problem lies elswhere. It's the theme of beauty and ugliness, that's missing from the show where they shift the accents in a bad way, IMO. The book gives us the outside beauty and brightness of the medieval-like court and chivalry, and shows how explicitly ugly and bloody they are on the inside. It's monstrocity in beauty and the beauty inside those that are called monsters. But in the show we are given ugliness in the ugly and beauty in beautiful. And it sucks.
There's no contrast of the lush and vivid King's Landing's court, well-endowed Riverlands, stern Winterfell and even more asketic Iron Islands. King's Landing surely looks more rich than every place else in the show, but the others look totally the same - poor, neglected, total Iron Islands or even Night Watch style. Black on black inside the black blacker than the blackest black times infinity. Well, when it's not black, it's brown. That looks like way before 10th century, but even then people had brighter clothes.
And the appearance matters so much for the tone of the story. It's easy to see that the most wretched people are those in the best clothes. But that's not all. Jeoffry is a really pretty boy in the book, we all know how awful his mind is. And in the show he has unpleasant looks. Tirion is an ugly dwarf with eyes of different color, this alienates everyone, and later he becomes even more ugly with a terrible wound on his face and half of his nose lost. Brienne is a downright unappealing masculine woman. But the reader loves those two for what they do and what they are inside. Their ugliness makes their inner world more precious, nobody thinks it clashes with the tone of the book, because that's the point! People understand it in the book, but the showrunners do not trust that people can understand such things. So in the show we do not have this contrast. Ugly? In fact, both are pretty hadsome in the show! And the looks isn't all they've changed, they freely go changing characters by their looks. In the book Arya is a little girl, but she's already a terrible monster inside, her life of losses made her adapt in this way. That's another contrast totally lost in the show, where she's still a nearly innocent angel, a bit harsh, but that's all. There's no need to go on with the examples, for even though the showrunners try to make their grimdark tone, the story in the book is much darker and grittier than in the show, even while the clothes are exquisite, knights are brightly and heavily armored and so much color is tossed around. In fact, this contrast is what makes darkness so vivid, as you can't see dark on the dark background that well)
I apologize for the wall of text =D
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